Season of The Splitter - December 12th 2024 - January 12th 2025

Oh, so it does KO them out if thrown. Alright, thanks. I was hoping for it to stun NPCs without KO them out, like the blueberry muffins do.

I was only thinking about this earlier to be fair. If we get the Easter and Halloween ones that will be awesome, but if not, I am more than content with the Xmas decorations if that ends up being the only ones we get from the Seasonal pack :slightly_smiling_face:

Will be breaking my 8¾ year streak of obtaining every single unlockable in the HITMAN trilogy (don’t @ me about the mutually exclusive varieties of H1 ET performance coins, you know what I mean) and NOT meeting the requirements to unlock the Purple Streak Boxer Suit.

IOI, you’ve made one of the best games of all time and I love that you did, but also fuck off with the ever-increasing movement towards the shittiest aspects of live-service gaming. You and Twitch can do one on this occasion, that mandatory Subscription is a red line I’m not going to cross. And if you keep on with this kind of bullshit further into the WoA (or beyond with the likes of Project 007) then I’m going to go from one of your biggest cheerleaders to your most vocal detractors, like I’m the ginger kid in The Incredibles.

EDIT - tagging in @Combatglue so that he can pass on the strength of my feeling about this topic to the team at IOI. It’s so, so easy to not squander all the goodwill you’ve built up over the last decade: there’s really no need at all for these kind of un-forced errors on IOI’s part.

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Is there any reason why a prime sub doesn’t count as “supporting a creator”? Seems like an unnecessary addition and kind of a dick move.

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Same here. The completionist in me would love to get the suit. But I’m not willing to follow up with every bit of bullshit, that IOI come up with these days. And I certainly don’t want to encourage it any further.
I have more thoughts on this, but I don’t know if I’m even willing to write them down, maybe in the coming days.

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I bought it. Subscribed and then cancelled the subscription to avoid recurring fees.
Around 6 euros I think it was. For a suit. More expensive than The Splitter Pack which contains more stuff.
Very bad precedent but the completionist in me could not resist.
So late in the game, IOI know what they’re doing to us. Having almost (or more than?) 50 suits after years of devotion, and then miss out on the one? Very difficult to resist.
But a very cheap trick. And why the Twitch infatuation? Just make it payable content if you want to make money out of this, but why make us jump through these Twitch hoops?
I feel like IOI’s cheap whore now.

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Eventhough i understand where alot of these comments are coming from, i dont really agree with them/share the same sentiment.

As mentioned before i rather view it as encouraging people to support their favorite streamer, and get a little something in return. Not forcing players to get it due to Fomo.

I have noticed that most people that are unhappy with this situation, are perfectly fine to spend that money had it been a simple dlc.

So a possible solution would be to have these Twitch drops items appear in a dlc like 2/3 months later, and then players can decide wether they rather support a streamer or support the game.

Which seems fair to me and would take away alot of the issues people are having (i think atleast from what ive read).

Then again i might also be a little biased since im one of those “streamers” that did benefit from today, so theres that.

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Decided to try the game on my steam deck today and I wish I could transfer my ps4 save data it looks so much prettier and runs a lot better also got my Krampus suit and purple baller will try the et soon

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Yeah, honestly dude - and you know how much I love you - but I think it’s entirely that. There is no world in which I am happy paying Twitch, you, IOI or even my own brother £5 for a single [novelty, and not very good] cosmetic suit.

It’s the value proposition here that makes this all kinds of fucked, moreso than who the cash is going to.

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I can understand that the subscription cost can be judged too high for just a suit, especially for people who are not even using Twitch or who don’t know a streamer they’d like to support.

But it’s something I can just ignore, despite my completionist tendencies in regards to unlocks and challenges. It’s not like the suit is in the inventory and greyed out, taunting you to buy it. In that regard, missions and decorations you didn’t buy access to being displayed seem much more egregious to me.

Maybe I’m naive but I also don’t see much of a risk of further drops being something unique that would trigger FOMO even more. It would make much more sense to sell such things as DLC to benefit directly from them. In a way, the drops we’ve had so far set a good enough precedent (of nothing unique being used) that I’m willing to, for now, assume that they will continue in the same vein.

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No it isn’t really. Did i benefit from it? yes. But me not sharing the same sentiment as some of you is independent of that.

I also offered a decent solution i believe? One that seems to take away most of the issues since most seem fine with dlc purchases.

Thats fair, then simply dont get it :smiley: (for the record for a single suit it does also seem overpriced to me. I was moreso talking about the concept and comparison and offering solution, and not how much the price was itself)

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NARRATOR: He was naive.

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Fair enough, and we’re probably talking at cross-purposes because for me the shocking value (a fiver for a single suit) is the only important point that requires discussion (the potential methods of obtaining are all window-dressing), and one that crosses an indefensible line of corporate greed and IOI taking the piss out of their fans.

I know that the value argument could have been made all the way back in the days of Horse Armor in The Elder Scrolls and that we’ve already moved from the thin end of the wedge much further up towards the fat end, but this is a step too far IMO and one that I hope the community will push back against to show IOI that we don’t like their direction of travel.

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IMO the principal problem is not that the money goes to a streamer instead of IOI (on top of the price being ridiculous for what you get, although I’m not really one to talk since I happily throw all my money at artists whenever they draw a character I like). It’s that the offer is time-limited. I dunno if that’s specific to Twitch and if it’s not possible for it to be a permanent offer because of some of their terms, but if it isn’t, that’s toxic marketing at its finest. Supporting that kind of shit only makes it more likely to happen again.

Your proposition seems fair though.

It’s an interesting discussion. A few points though:

While i agree that a fiver for a single suit is very pricy, a single sub is the lowest amount possible on Twitch (Twitch not allowing Twitch Primes being used for these is very meh).

As for corporate greed on IOIs side: From those 5 dollars, 40% goes to Twitch, 60% goes to the streamer. IOI is not making any direct money from these subs, but is receiving other benefits from Twitch such as exposure/higher number of viewers of their game (plus maybe some support in form of money, i dont know what the deal was they made).

I do truly like to believe that this idea came from a good place: to support streamers of their game, and far less so “corporate greed”.

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Ye thats understandable. That is on Twitch yes, Campaigns have a 28-day maximum duration.

Id like to think so too

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So, to be transparent, we can bring it back just like we can bring Drops back.
But like Frote7 says, we can only have a campaign running for 28 days, at a time.

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I still think it’s corporate greed, even if IOI aren’t directly taking in the cash themselves. As you say, there are indirect financial benefits to putting money in streamers’ pockets for IOI, and effectively they’re asking their players to shoulder IOI’s marketing costs for them.

Now I know that as customers the very act of buying something covers the running costs of a company, but that brings us back to the value point - we usually get something much more for our money than a single suit for a fiver.

Even taking the most forgiving position and assuming the very best of intentions from IOI, they’re still asking their players to ‘give charitably’ on the company’s behalf for very little in exchange (ie. the players are the ones doing the giving rather than IOI).

I remember when Holiday Hoarders was first announced during H1 and IOI proudly declared that it was a free bonus (lite) mission, but that they would encourage players to donate to charity in an act of paying it forward. Personally I donated £20 (much more than the individual mission was ‘worth’ if it were simply to be sold as DLC) because I was impressed with IOI’s generosity and wanted to respond in kind. But at no point was any player ever forced to donate. In that case IOI was making the first generous move and hoping it would inspire players to follow suit… not so much in 2024, it seems.

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It’s a Spray Can/Package reskin.

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I’m actually going to agree with you here; I too feel this move was not done to be greedy, but to support streamers.

However, it’s pretty likely IO was compensated by Twitch/ Amazon (or, worse, Amazon/ Twitch was compensated), if not immediately, but later on if certain thresholds are met. Business Deals are never usually done for free.

I do maintain this was an idea that just turned bad on announcement; it just…feels wrong. I wanna support streamers, but if I wanted to give them a fiver, I’d give it to them directly via Paypal/ streamer donations; the streamer would get 95-8% of the money (the rest to Paypal as a part of their 2-5% cut) and while I wouldn’t have a gaudy purple boxing suit, I’d know most of my charity went to the streamer, and not to Twitch or IO.