i’m enjoying the “rogue bank” deflection. it’s pretty evocative; makes me think of a rock and roll bank that all the other banks shake their heads at despairingly as it smashes up expensive hotel rooms and bangs lines of credit off the coffee table.
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“We aren’t a rogue bank, we don’t have enough rogue bankers to be a rogue bank” is almost as bad as “We aren’t a rogue bank, we are simply taking money from literally anyone even criminals and people with bad histories with money and not asking questions”.
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So maybe we’re not looking at a full invasion? I’m not Ukrainian so I don’t know, but it looks like Putin wants to back the separatists to push their occupation further into Donetsk and Luhansk.
I’m not Russian either, so I don’t know what goes on in that psychopath’s mind.
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Also worth mentioning that the Russian market dipped by like 10 percent.
I have to admit this was I thought was the “best” case scenario for all of this. (My worst was an invasion and occupation of Eastern Ukraine).
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Putin doesn’t want to invade; he wants Ukraine to voluntarily join with Russia, or enough of it as to not make any real difference. That’s why he’s recognizing the separatists. As long as he gets enough people, he gets what he wants. The troops are likely a bluff and probably always were. Parts of Ukraine are falling for it.
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That is one of the sharpest swords we can draw in Germany. With pretty empty gas reserves (that we even partly gave in the hands of the Russian company Gazprom) and already high energy costs we might run into problems the next Fall/Winter. If one followed the history of Nord Stream 2, one will notice that Germany so far never really liked to question it. So it is a bold move.
I wonder if we ever dare to exclude Russia from SWIFT, basically cutting them off financial transfers outside their borders. That would be the most hurting sanction, obviously for us too.
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You know, at this point Russia is presenting itself as potential threat again to the entire West because of its egotistical leader who has something to prove. Why can’t all the groups of counties that have a stake in this not gather together with the intent to declare Russia a potential and intolerable threat to their security, but hold off on declaring it and invite Putin to come sit with them, and then declare it once he’s there and just take him prisoner with troops once he’s there, removing him as Russia’s leader democratically (popular vote by the community of nations), and allowing the Russians to choose new leadership.
Yeah, I know there are numerous issues with that, but why is this not a potential option for countries that promote democracy and insist on policing the world? If you’re gonna imagine such things, then get serious and do it.
Uh because most likely this causes an automatized declaration of potentially nuclear war from his military against the country who helds him hostage. That is a really really bad idea.
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The majority of his country doesn’t like him or want him in charge, and if the same countries declare that they are already poised to strike if Russia even thinks of retaliating, and everyone is against them, what could they do?
I know it’s not that simple, but just once I’d like to see leaders stop pissing around with displays and gestures and speeches, and make motherfuckers who need to be stopped, actually stop.
I’d say the “best” case scenario would’ve been Russia fucking off. But yeah, among the options involving incursion into Ukrainian territory, sending troops to the separatist(-controlled) regions is arguably the “best” case scenario, providing they stay at that and don’t escalate to the other scenario you mention (or worse).
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It is not the people who send the nukes, it is the military. And Putin made clear recently that Russia as such will at some point start a war no matter if they can win it.
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Right, but I question how loyal that military is if it came down to it. I think, without Putin behind them, if we dare them, they’ll blink. The majority of Russia, even the military, doesn’t want what Putin is doing and I think they’d take the out, if someone took him out.
Given how ridiculous it is it might be worth a try to remove him and hope that his close military circle will not nuke the western world, I suggest you use this thread more for posting actual news or statements to them based on sources and not such comments.
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Right, getting off track here, sorry.
Not a news (article from last year, matter from 2000) but it adds to the perspective at which point things went wrong.
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