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A definite improvement, nice work :clap:
Thereā€™s something about the eyes thatā€™s deeply unsettling to me in H3. Uncanny valley, almost. In H2 his eyes had more life in them. idk if that makes sense but thatā€™s my main issue with his H3 model. You handled it well though.

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You have no idea how right you are. Even if we leave the model from H3 unchanged, but take the eyes and his gaze from H2, we will already get a nice improvement. Here:

I dunno. Itā€™s just likeā€¦ he turned into a puppy from a seasoned wolf. He really become lifeless, no matter how ambiguous it sounds.

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Yes, lifeless is the right word. With his Hitman 2 model he looked more like the character he is- you can see the years of pain in his face. That is totally lost in the Hitman 3 model.

And I think the H2 model looks more ā€œrealisticā€ than the H3 model.

I think it just makes sense to ā€œreduceā€ his quality since he is barely visible in H3, we only see him close enough during DubaĆÆ, but I understand yā€™all are sad he looks different

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Hmm. Devā€™s have a tendency to slightly change characters (hello, 47) from game to game. We can see him close enough in ā€˜ā€˜reflectionsā€™ā€™ (Romania) and not only during cutscenes. Iā€™m still inclined to think that IO tried to make Grey look like ā€˜ā€˜newā€™ā€™ 47 (theyā€™re brothers, after all). But the problem is that THIS appearance doesnā€™t fit him :sweat_smile:

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Maybe IO cut corners to reduce the gameā€™s file size as much as they could and since Grey model was used only for low quality videos, it was an easy picking. :slight_smile:
Itā€™s not like he was important or anything :upside_down_face:

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Leave this thread.

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I wish we had seen him in this as well:

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Yes, that coat looks very cool!

Seeing that concept he looks more elegant there IMO and not that contrite (I hope thatā€™s the right word :sweat_smile:)

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@Mini I remembered your note on Tumblr about his eyes and I thought it would be better to sort out this moment here. In short, he has amblyopia in his left eye. A ā€œlazy eyeā€. This is not confirmed information, I only appeal with the facts that I have. You can catch a glimpse of this in the ā€œOld friendsā€ cinematic:

His pre-render model also has this detail (however, it looks unconvincing here).
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Before I started taking screenshots of him myself, I thought it was a bullshit. However, shots from the front angle say the opposite.

In most cases it is not so noticeable, since he still looks around. But from some anglesā€¦ yeah.

I donā€™t presume to say that it was conceived, Iā€™m not a developer after all (I probably need to look better at his face in H3). But if Grey really has amblyopia, and it is not fault of 3d-artists and animators, this is doubly cool. One more detail to the fact that he is not as perfect as 47

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Wow, thank you!

Well, when he had this in Hitman 1 Iā€™m sure it was planned, when they let it stay in Hitman 2. I must watch the cutscenes from Hitman 3 again to see if he has the lazy eye there, too.

If yes, itā€™s a pity they never got deeper into his health issues (the elbow, the eyeā€¦)

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I will not speak for the cutscenes, but I took pictures from all possible angles in ā€œReflectionsā€. It looks like his eyes are okay now.

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Unfortunately, this is the only location where I have access to his model, and the lighting there is disgusting (there is simply NO lighting there). Therefore, I slightly tweaked the brightness in the photo editor. My only hope now is that someday someone will make a mod with a model swap. :sweat_smile: I donā€™t have as much time now as I had two years ago, so I canā€™t afford to mod the game myself. Iā€™ll just go crazy, because I can take one screenshot for three hours. And if before that I have to spend the same amount of time to replace the modelā€¦ :joy:

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Shame they donā€™t have more characters with more unique features. The gun shop owner with lung cancer that uses a device to speak, Travis with the prosthetic hand and Grey with a lazy eye :grinning:

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Is that a screenshot from him in that coffin? :sweat_smile:

Maybe you can ask @Luiluix I think he has a mod from the Hitman 3 model if Iā€™m right? Sorry if I got that wrong, I really have no clue on mods haha

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Parvati has the prosthetic hand, the new ET is missing fingers. I think IO does a good job in general of making targets look and feel unique (at least visually :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:)

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Donā€™t forget the extremely menacing Lhom Kwai from the Hantu Port sniper mission

Holy moly.

But hey those details about Grey are cool, doubly so if it was intentional.

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We also had quite a few targets with eye patches. Probably because itā€™s easier to put an eye patch onto an NPC than creating a limb prosthetic.

But speaking of limb prosthetics, there was also that one scientist in Absolution who had a metal leg. And Letā€™s not forget Cayne, the wheelchair bound villain of Blood Money.

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Robert Knox with his scarred face and Maya Parvatti with her prosthetic arm also come to mind.

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Alma Reynard with her smoking hot voice, perfect facial features and divine legs, comes to mind as well. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Wait, what were we talking about?

Lucas Grey also has a smoking hot voice, truth be told. I could listen to that man calmly threatening me to death and still enjoy it somehow.

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Okay guys, hear me out. Lucas Grey is alive and he became a teacher! Meet Mr. Grey!

He is kind but also severely.

Picture credit goes to @Gromova

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