Won’t argue with that. IOI goofed up there. And those who had the game all the time the pack was available and didn’t buy it also goofed up because you didn’t get it while it was there. It is a fair comparison because, since this is a live service game, you should know that access to any particular part of it can be cut off at any time. You know that no part of this game is going to last forever. It doesn’t even matter if you knew for a fact it was going to be available for exactly five years; that’s for people who come into the fold across that time. You already had access to the game, the content is available now, why are you not getting it? If you chose, if you made the conscious decision to not get the pack, for whatever reason, then it’s on you for not having it now that it’s gone.
I don’t follow celebrities and was not aware of the court case. I planned on getting the DLC, now I missed it.
I hope the mission becomes available for purchase again with a fictional character instead of McGregor.
Certainty versus uncertainty. Hardly the same. If my driving license was 1 year away from expiration, and suddenly made illegal and expired overnight because of events out of my control completely unrelated to me, I would question it, if my work is focused around driving, I’d be seriously mad.
This is the mindset that leads people to excessive spending. You might say, it was merely $5, a chump change. And said people who embraces such mindset will additionally spend their five bucks here and there throughout their lives wasting money. Someone is spending hundreds on discount stores like dollar general not seeing the wider scope of their purchases at this moment. I wouldn’t say we all should embrace their thinking.
Not saying you should either. But, you also don’t get to whine about it when something is no longer available all of a sudden because you refused to make that purchase when you had the time and means to do so. It’s one or the other.
Content here, eye blink, content not here. People mad. I think that all of a sudden part is greatly downplayed there in your comment, but again, I am just voicing my opinion like everyone else here.
Six months, my man. Six months. Six days? Sure, ok. Six weeks? Maybe. Six months. Your own choices.
It was there for six months. Not hard for people to think it was fated be there for another six months. It’s all just a matter of perspective.
Still six months it could have been obtained. Someone saying “huh, it’s been there since June… eh, it’ll probably still be there next June, I’ll get it then” is someone who’s not very concerned about getting it in the first place.
That guy may be still concerned, just aren’t feeling any urgency, especially when there’s a similar product in the same line released in March is still on the shelves and all the other clues are directing to the same direction of permanence.
Doesn’t change the fact that it’s not a concern if that person is willing to wait an indeterminate period of time for some kind of “better deal” to get it - especially with no guarantee of it even happening. IOI having done it before is no reason to assume it’ll just be done again. I’m sure people who never took the time to unlock the ICA Electrocution Phone ended up kicking themselves for thinking they had all the time to do it. Same thing here, so there is actual precedent for this.
If you want to get something the game is offering, then get it. If you wait, you risk it being made unavailable. It doesn’t matter if there’s hints to it or not; nothing with this game is a certainty. So if you missed your chance, while it was there aaaaall that time, and you just didn’t want to pay up a little money to get it, then getting the content was not your priority to begin with. You went all that time without it when you could have had it, and now, until a time when IOI might make it available for others, you’ll just need to continue on not having it as you did before. Since waiting for a better deal was a bigger priority than having the content itself, it shouldn’t be a problem then that now you’ll definitely not have to pay anything for it, and your situation hasn’t changed.
It still is a concern if it robs someone from any future chances to obtain the thing.
Over-the-time discounts are pretty much guaranteed. In the same week or before The Undying Pack was getting discounted 20% off.
That’s literally how prediction works, enabling people to make better choices.
They announced the delisting of Hitman 2 way before their actual date, giving people a deadline. It is a precedent and it points the other way.
I’m sure people who never bought H2 either don’t care about that phone, or have bigger concerns than a specific item (like, no longer being able to play the game, for example).
Yes, it is, but far less concerning when it is someone who already had the game, knew the content was there, had an extended period of time to obtain it, didn’t, and is now griping about it after they lost the chance.
Do you know what “pretty much guaranteed” means? It means not guaranteed.
But that is not something to depend on. While past experience and occurrence can be an indication of what the future may hold, it is never a certainty, or a means of actual prediction. There was always a possibility that there would not be any discounts for the content, in which case the waiting would have been for nothing. Opportunity still lost.
Incorrect. I didn’t say Hitman 2; I said the ICA Electrocution Phone, and I was careful to phrase it that way. Anyone who didn’t unlock it for regular use when H2 was the hub missed out once H3 came along and became the hub without it being included. Unlocking in H2 post-H3 became meaningless. There was also no warning that it wouldn’t carry into H3 until they said it wouldn’t be, so no one was prepared for that. Precedent for IOI making decisions on what content will and will not be available without warning exist, and so should have been a motivator to get the content while you had the time and opportunity. My point stands.
Irrelevant to the point. People who didn’t get the Disruptor pack content - and even some who did - have a bigger issue to worry about such as that content being tied to a confirmed sexual assaulter. And yet, here we have complains about not getting it while the opportunity was there (brand new players notwithstanding). The point is, content has become unavailable both with and without warning in the past. Those who were present for that should have known better.
Not when they weren’t provided with enough information that the affected content(s) will be locked behind time.
Yes, but looking at the sales going on right now, I believe it is very much guaranteed.
That’s your way of seeing things, those who bought H2 still have it unlocked in their H2 inventory. The servers are still live at this moment. Those who got H2 before its removal, and still haven’t unlocked the thing, are also given the opportunity the unlock the gadget and use it in H2. And you can’t really state the phone as an example of removed content in H3 when the item was never available in H3. It was simply never there.
I understand disappointment for missing content, but to go from there to suggesting the content should be deleted for everyone is unacceptable for me.
Then why do you bring it up as an example?
This is completely ridiculous. By that same logic H1’s Master Mode is now “meaningless” because it’s no longer present in H3, nevermind that you can still play it if you have H1? You can still unlock the phone in H2, if you have the game but somehow didn’t unlock that item you didn’t miss anything more than someone who bought NY on day one.
“Some who did”? Like who exactly? Why not “those who did”? It’s just a binary state, either you bought the DLC or you didn’t.
(How the fuck did a simple “You had ample time to buy that DLC, stop complaining” managed to generate a comment chain this long? :x)
I believe he’s referring to the people who missed the DLC and people with the DLC but is still voicing against the removal of it.
I’m actually referring to those who have it but are uncertain whether it should remain in the game or not because of its associations.
The point of the example had nothing to do with you said, don’t was irrelevant to the point the example was provided for.
Easy: someone tried to argue with me. This is not unheard of.
This has become one of those HMF threads that’s more a workout for my scrolling finger than it is for my eyeballs and word-processing cortex.
True, but it’s been pretty invigorating. Haven’t had a good debate for a while and at least this one stayed mostly on-topic.