If it doesn’t look like Codename 47, why make it then?
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I dunno. The Blood Money suit doesn’t actually look like the one from Blood Money, the Undying suit doesn’t actually look like the Undying, and the Cashmirian suit is an absolute insult. Why make them?
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The problem is none of the suits look like how they should. And the C47 one doesn’t surprise me.
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Besides, there is a precedent. Remember Agent 17’s suit ?
This was what was first created.
Everyone disliked the glasses in the leak topic, and it was then changed for the release.
Funnily enough, the data of it was added at the same time that the C47 suit, and the sniper one. Back in July 22. It took some times for them to arrive.
Unfortunately, it might also means that the time of devs working on suits are passed, and that no change will be made.
Besides, I believe the new Agent 17 we have is a “simple” kitbash, not a complete new model, as would be required here. Much easier to justify. 
(and yes, I also would prefer the original face.)
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Have never played C47, and have no intention of doing so. It’s janky and has not aged well. I have little to no stake in this fight, and if IOI want to change his face to make him more H3-like, then that is fine by me.
My Rose-tinted Nostalgia glasses is strictly reserved for the Spyro games.
Honestly, this doesn’t really look very “Agent 17”-ish, and looks more like a placeholder while they found appropriate sunglasses. Just check the wiki..
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As in IOI takes feedback in those topics? This makes me think I’m missing out on more than just data-mined stuff. 
Not that I want access. I shall retain my spoiler-free Hitman experience.
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I mean @Tetrafish_21, I don’t know.
It’s just that the suit changed during the 3 months before being released. A lot of people were vocal about it.
And well, as far as I know the glasses on this first draft are an original model (and closer to the shape of the original 17, if with modern shade that changes the entire aesthetic).
While the one we had in the end is, I think, a kitbash of the usual bodyguard sunglasses. Which would the opposite of how a placeholder would have worked.
So…
But to be clear, this is an opinion, it has never been told or anything.
I’m just hoping for C47 face. You know, the bargaining stage. 
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The problem with this is that the original C47 face looks more like 47’s H3 face than this weird Putin lookalike 
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I think the argument about the visual correctness of suits is a bit of a talking in circles situation.
Blood Money Suit design wise is correct. Pin Stripe Shirt and Tie. With the only distinct difference being the suit isn’t buttoned closed which is a rather trivial detail that doesn’t really take away anything.
The argument surrounding the “Undying Suit” is also a poor excuse too simply cause it was never suppose to be Mark Fabas Suit. Hence why in-game the suit is The Undying Look which is a suit that take the core color scheme of Fabas Suit, that’s it.
Same goes for the Cashmerian suit that is suppose to be something unlike the original. It’s not meant to be directly ripped off of The Kashmerians actual suit and is it own visually distinct thing that takes visual similarities. There’s a reason why the name is even spelled different because it’s not suppose to be the exact copy of the suit.
The Codename 47 Polygon Suit is something entirely different where it’s an entirely new model hand crafted by whom ever at IO that handles the creation of new assets. I don’t entirely agree with the design and do agree with @MrOchoa that facially that isn’t C47 47. That being said i can respect the idea of reinterpreting that face cause simply ripping the model from C47 and rigging it to H3 “bone structure” simply could cause more issues then solutions compared to making something from scratch especially animation wise.
It’s a glass half empty situation and yes it sucks, but something like the Agent 17 suit is an easier thing to recreate than it is to intentionally make low poly models in High Definition games. It’s not the first time game developers took a hit at our nostalgia and didn’t get it 100% accurate. Rockstar has done it with Max Payne in Max Payne 3 and that also extends across companies like Activision and Square too.
All these new unlocks are exciting and while for some they’re visually jarring I think we can mutually agree that Hitman 3’s support is unprecedented where most companies give up after 1 or 2 years. This game is going strong.
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No…no it doesn’t. the OG C47 Face has a massive chin, making the head look too thin, and his eyes are much more stretched out.
I’d give specific examples, but I can’t for spoiler/ leak reasons.
Also, just so people are aware, Putins’ head has considerably more flabby fat underneath his chin, and he looks a lot older, so it doesn’t look all that much like him either.
They have definitely changed stuff because of Mods and Leaks before now. This past update had them change the inventory ID’s for the Silverballer, ICA 19 and Chrome so that can have unique descriptions (or rather, so modders like myself could actually make one, they were merged prior to this update). I didn’t ask them to, and I mentioned it off-handedly.
It surprised me too. Now all we need is Futo to actually be recognised as a Ninja, and then I can die happily.
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No, the tie doesn’t match. Look at the actual Blood Money tie (red, slightly darker red, prominent gold stripes that stand out), and the Blood Money suit from WoA (red, significantly darker red that’s almost black in shadows, gold stripes that are barely noticeable). It’s closer to the Contracts tie than the Blood Money tie.
Then it’s not the Undying look and shouldn’t be named as such. It’s a suit with some basic similarity; the Ashen suit released with the next game had that same look, except for a different colored tie and gloves, which Faba wasn’t wearing anyway. It was given that name to pitch it as if we were wearing Faba’s suit. The fact that it’s not makes its label meaningless.
The whole reason why they even came up with the idea for that suit was because of the requests for the Kashmirian suit, or even if they had a notion to start making it before even getting such requests, they likely did so knowing how people asked for certain suits after H1 released. Either way, they knew players wanted the actual Kashmirian suit, and they gave one without the hat, glasses, and a different color. No need to give one vaguely similar that nobody was asking for when the actual one that was being asked for could have been done.
On a similar note, that they are now giving us the jack’o’lantern suit that had been asked for since first being playable on H2, it makes the same suit they released last year without the jack’o’lantern head or the scarecrow mask completely meaningless, which we even said so at the time, too.
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It’s not completely meaningless. The pumpkin “suit” doesn’t have 47’s head in it.
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Not relevant. It’s meant to be seen as a mask over his head. Just because the model of his head isn’t rendered inside it doesn’t mean anything.
If y’all can quibble about ties and whether a suit’s lines match precisely, I can complain about a pumpkin mask that isn’t a mask. It’s entirely relevant.
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Fandoms tend to get lost in the details and it ends up becoming this hyper fixation for what personifies as correct.
Darth Vader Helmets, Lightsabers, Michael Myers Masks, Indiana Jones hats, etc.
It’s why I focused on the modern interpretation approach to the C47 Suit. I may not agree with the design, but it’s an interpretation of the model from the original none the less. Just like the various other legacy suits in the game they’re just interpretations of them.
I very much am guilty of getting lost in details when it comes to being a fan of something, and I’m sure there will be a model swap mod fixing this suit when it eventually releases.
Sir, that red tie… smashing.
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Isn’t the point of the Pumpkin “suit” to not be 47 to begin with? It’s a dream manifestation of Sean 2 as he’s sleeping. Like, his head is the pumpkin and it’s meant to look otherworldly and not a part of reality.
They really should’ve modified it to make it a mask when out of the Mills Reverie, because when it releases, it’s just gonna look really weird (well, more weird than current).
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