Yeah as they are now McGregor’s lines are just generic dumb bruiser taunts. If they’re rewritten with puns and a bit of dark humour that ET could get the personality McGregor failed to give it.
Seriously. It’s the worst voice acting in the entire game.
Look, I hate Conor as much as the next guy here, but I have more problems with Dmitri Vegas’s voice lines due to his accent making his lines sound dull and unemotional, even though he has many more varied voice lines. Conor actually sounds pretty okay to my ears.
Maybe inside the ring, sure, but I’d argue that’s something I’d expect in that context, especially when he’s taunting a guy who we know isn’t very good. Outside the ring, he changes tack, and while he’s not quoting bible scripture anytime soon, it’s not exactly dumb muscle talk either. He holds proper conversations (albeit about fighting) with several people, and one about Atlantide being the best drink ever.
His voice lines, like many other aspects of the mission, are exaggerations of his real personality (or rather, the Heel persona he plays in the UFC). If the mission were to get altered, I’d expect these would be changed too, as these old lines lose their connection to Conor and become irrelevant.
McGregor’s and Vegas’ voice acting is FINE. It’s not that bad, it’s not that good but it’s not that bad. They’re a little wooden, but the lines written for them embody the kinds of personalities that work for their voices. The actual content of the ETs isnt really the problem, it’s just the choice of person. With McGregor it’s the fact he’s a dick and with Vegas it’s just that it’s a fine choice because he is super famous but he’s not famous in the circles which are likely to pick up a Hitman game and become fans
I would disagree with regard to McGregor. Vegas, I know nothing about the man, but listening to his tone, he makes the character sound like he’s willing and able to do the things he’s suspected of doing. McGregor does his lines with all the menace of the high school bully in a teen comedy. His voice itself sounds like a guy who fights, but his trying to make it into a character, it just didn’t work.
Doing it from a coding/development perspective is different to doing it from a legal perspective. Since none of us have seen the contracts etc, it’s impossible to say what they can and can’t do without getting sued by McGregor… and let’s be honest, right now nobody wants to give someone a chance to claim he has the moral high ground.
This is a particularly savage burn given how much people used to rage over the various extras voice acting in the original part of the trilogy. Well done.
Though what you said about the contact and legality is true, the contract is obviously no more and if he were to sue IOI due to changes made he would have to somehow prove how they’re still using his image in game, but none of the content apart from The Ostentatious himself is specifically tied to McGregor or his branding. Kettlebell with Irish flag, Plain green resistence band, Fictional fancy shamrock cane, Green shorts with knockoff Reebok logo that’s drastically different than the one Conor worn, Generic fur coat with striped short that’s not again, worn by McGregor. It’s freelancer additions like different gym layouts and burning pit of money are also hard to link to his character if not impossible.
Entirely depends on the agreement. The key variables are:
- Was he granted royalties from sales?
- If so, did IOI have a clause that granted them the right to take the content off the market.
- If they did have such a clause, was it unconditional or subject to him causing adverse conditions.
- If it is cancellable only by adverse conditions, did it explicitly cover the outcome of his civil litigation as entitling IOI to break the deal off.
Given that his case was already pending and IOI had every opportunity to do their due diligence and see that he had upcoming litigation, he could definitely seek a judgement against them on the basis that losing the case was a foreseeable outcome and therefore, not a justifiable reason for IOI to break off. Whether it would succeed is unanswerable until put to the test.
Of course, for all we know, maybe they already paid him out, or they simply reserved the right to do it on a whim and he’s out of luck.
Has there been some official communication from IOI?
Not having followed the news, I just noticed I can’t play the Disruptor arcade anymore, despite having paid for the contents. Can I get the money back?
You can still play it. Its just been moved right to the end of the Arcade list to make it less prominent.
Thanks!
I like that solution
Outside of their initial twitter announcement/ non-apology…no. If anything, they’ve actively been taking stuff down relating to Conor to avoid association (I.E blogposts featuring him and the DLC/ his rerun)
Yeah, no high school bully talks, or even shouts, with that amount of vitriol in any teen comedy I’ve ever watched, so I’m not sure how that comparison fits. If anything, a high school bully is gonna escalate their voice with circumstance; be quite quiet and then start shouting at their victim, and it would certainly not be in the same tone that Conor was using either. The point of bullying is that it’s relatively discreet for the most part; Conor’s tone figuratively and literally screams “Look at me, I am a big guy!” all the time.
They’re decent lines of dialogue; I don’t think we need to make it sound weak just for the sakes of a cheap potshot at the guy, nor be so dismissive of their voice acting talent for the same reasons. I hate him as much as you do, but I’ll give credit where it’s due at least.
His voice itself sounds mean and intimidating, but I could not take any of his taunts and threats seriously, because he sounded like he was trying to sound mean and intimidating instead of just letting his voice and the words themselves be menacing for him. I think it’s because he’s delivering them in a shouting kind of voice half the time, and spending the other half sounding like this super angry guy who can barely hold it together. I’ve never been able to take characters who speak in such a way seriously as threats. Compare The Rage and his conversation with his dealer, who sounds a lot more legit as a threat than McGregor spouting his obscenities.
If you have problems with what Conor says in those lines, then blame IOI for the script they gave Conor, not on his delivery, which again, was fine, if not good.
Yes, because he’s fighting half the time! That’s very expected! Outside of the ring, he comes off more as cocky in his line delivery, rather than angry, which is precisely what I expected him to act like in that situation.
For the record, these lines have not aged all that well either. Good lord…That’s a whole other discussion.
Again, my main point being is that, unlike most of the others that sound sincere and believable as the characters they are, McGregor sounds like he’s trying too hard. His line deliveries don’t sound serious, they sound like a guy who’s acting. And yes, I know that he is acting, but you’re not supposed to sound like you are. He sounds like he’s trying to make his character seem like an angry tough guy, instead of just making him sound like one by talking in his natural way. It doesn’t sound convincing to me at all, never did since the first time playing it. I guess I should add that as the 10th reason why the Disruptor is the stupidest ET we’ve ever had.
Sounded pretty convincing to me, in all respects. Doesn’t sound like he’s trying too hard at all either. Sounds like an angry tough guy, and is very believable as one.
I don’t know what you want me to say here, but I think you’re just being picky for the sakes of dunking on him.
Well, for me, he doesn’t. I’m sure he’d be more convincing with his in-person persona, but his VA skills so far don’t cut it.
I’m not saying this to dunk on him for the sake of it, this is what I thought the first time I played it, back when there was only accusations and I didn’t care yet.
I’ve always been concerned with Conor’s involvement, so I guess we’re different in that respect.
I dunno, maybe I just have lower standards
In fairness, I think I have unreasonably high standards, and I think most would agree.