I don’t know if you’re in the minority.
“They” didn’t kill off Superman when Reeves died nor they kill him off when Reeve died. As you said, it’s an important character.
I don’t know if you’re in the minority.
“They” didn’t kill off Superman when Reeves died nor they kill him off when Reeve died. As you said, it’s an important character.
There are very, very few roles that “belong” to a specific actor. I am generally against reserving a part for a specific actor. If an actor dies, whoever owns the rights to the character can recast the role if they want to.
Circumstance matters. You laid it out that the actor dies. There might be other sets of events where it’s abhorrent to even think about replacing the actor (we know a thing or two about this don’t we ).
Another factor I was considering is whether they’re talking about replacing an actor within a franchise or in a different one. I have lost count of how many people have played Batman now but most of the time each time there’s a new actor it’s been within a different continuity of the story. The Michael Keaton Batman and the Christian Bale Batman are not the same person, even if they are the same character. I’m not sure that I would consider any of the actors who have played Batman to be “The” Batman.
Within a given franchise continuity though, I suppose a decent argument can be made not to recast (although even that is not set in stone - see Bruce Banner in the current Marvel movies).
We can all probably speak to what “we” would have wanted if we were at the helm of X movie or franchise, but at the end of the day this whole Black Panther situation is Ryan Coogler’s project, and he made the decision after Chadwick’s passing that he didn’t want to continue with the sequel he had in mind for T’Challa, so he re-wrote the entire script to find a way to honor him, his portrayal, without replacing or painting over it.
Yea I get that. I wasn’t saying it was the wrong decision, neither do I think that’s what Kent was saying. I simply would have preferred that such a groundbreaking character was kept alive despite the actors passing.
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So many Batmans!!! 3 even to play in one franchise. Kilmer and Clooney are really just a new actor in Keatons role. I so wish Kilmer had stayed for Batman + Robin. Oh well.
I fail to see how Val Kilmer’s presence in that movie would have made the slightest bit of difference. It still would have been a massive pile of flaming dog poo.
Something that was upcoming, but no longer is…
It’s insane to me that they can film a whole movie, spend 90 Million Dollars on it, yet choose to axe it entirely.
Because it’s just not expensive enough, or something
Studio insiders insist the decision to axe “Batgirl” was not driven by the quality of the film or the commitment of the filmmakers, but by the desire for the studio’s slate of DC features to be at a blockbuster scale. “Batgirl” was budgeted to screen in homes on HBO Max, and not for a major global release in theaters.
This film would have starred Leslie Grace, JK Simmons, Michael Keaton as Batman (who is also in that Flash movie) and even Brendan Fraser returning to acting, as the villain Firefly
DC just needs to do like Marvel and make their own studio. (I get they have WB, but still, nearly every project of theirs just doesn’t turn out quite right, either due to their rush in copying Marvel’s formula, or WB meddling like with the Discovery merger right now)
If you ask me, Warner Brothers/DC have been badly mismanaging their superhero franchises for a long time. They seem to always be reacting rather than being proactive. They bungled Superman and Batman, are currently bungling Aquaman and the Flash, and have now axed Batgirl. I really have no confidence at all in any DC property at this point.
It wasn’t the best Batman but it was fun.
I didn’t mean to “save” the movie though. I just wanted him to stay on for another bc I like him. They offered him the role even before Forever was done with the opening weekend but he wasn’t interested. He didn’t Iike “not acting” when he was in the suit, but maybe if he had read the script before he said yes he would have been prepared for a lot of Batman scenes and not so many Bruce Wayne scenes.
I can’t believe they cancelled this film yet The Flash film being made with a psychopath in its lead role is still on the table. Also Killer Moth was going to be the main villain, I am so pissed.
I know right. I get why there’s maybe some hesitancy on what to do for that film, given all the others actors did their work and are good human beings compared to them, but…
I don’t even think Bat Girl had any principal photography done so it’s kinda whatever at this point, but this isn’t the only projected that got shelved. The Scoob! Prequel was 90% completed as of last Friday after the animation team completed their work and it got shelved.
DC is just focusing on their Dark-verse projects now since they’ve been simply successful financially. So the future is Black Adam, Joker 2, and The Batman Sequels as DC wraps up the remaining Snyderverse films.
The article says it was done shooting and was in post-production, most other places say so as well.
I don’t much care for that iteration of Scoob and its celebrification of voice acting (maybe it’s good I just haven’t seen it yet) but that’s terrible!
Hmm, all I can say then is Warner just doesn’t see a financial reason to release it right now especially since the person who is the studio head is a massive money pincher and would rather produce naked and afraid and 90 day fiancé.
Maybe they are lying (Hollywood never does that , right?) and BatGirl just isn’t very good at all?
If you’re old enough to remember, SuperGirl was just terrible.
Supergirl is one of my guilty pleasure movies. I just like it, even though it’s objectively not a good film.
In case anyone was confused that Avg Rating of 8 is NOT 8/10. It’s 8/100
How the fuck can we even know that if they aren’t releasing it at all? They let Snyder fanboys see that awful abortion of a director’s cut for the Justice League film and they released Suicide Squad so I have no clue why they won’t release this and why they are still making a film whose star is still the head of a nationwide manhunt.
EDIT: You missed Chicken’s article, Warner directly stated this had nothing to do with quality they just felt that the film wasn’t “cinematic” enough to fit in with their stable which is still a stupid excuse.
And they still released it along with Superman 4 so why have Warner become so pre-selective now?
This really does noting, it doesn’t even make a case at all. You have just brought up Supergirl for no reason. That is like if they cancelled the newest Avengers movie even if it was done then when people complained I went “Well yeah but have you seen The Incredible Hulk?”
Batgirl had no reason being made in the first place. I’m really getting tired of these movies, mostly from WB/DC and Sony, that takes villains or secondary/supporting characters and giving them their own films. People need to understand that some characters, no matter how popular or integral to the main character of the franchise they’re tied to, are truly only there to support that character. Batgirl exists to support Batman, Robin, and commissioner Gordon; that’s all. That character exists for absolutely no other reason. I would say the same about Robin himself, or Gordon, or Alfred; I would not want to see any movies based on these characters either. Even Joker and Catwoman got their own movies, and as much as I love the character and loved the movie, Joker really shouldn’t have been done, and the same for Catwoman and that was a trash heap. Just like how Venom and Morbius shouldn’t have been done. And to think Madame Webb is coming…
Now, had they done a movie on Barbara Gordon as Oracle, ah, now we’re getting into a phase where the character could branch out on her own in her own movie. Same if we had a Nightwing movie. But what’s next? A Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen movie? An Uncle Ben movie? How about we learn how bad a childhood Mac Gargan had and how that led to him becoming the Scorpion, or perhaps we need an origin story focusing on Metallo’s teenage years and how becoming a kryptonite-powered cyborg who wants to kill Superman was the only way he could save the orphanage he grew up in from being closed by the corrupt mayor who, gasp, was the one who killed his parents in the first place.