Making the perfect Silverballer replica

If you are willing to make another siverballer with removable suppressor (I’m assuming you’re only making one for yourself), I’d be more than happy to buy one from you, other replicas I’ve come across just don’t seem as detailed as yours, so good work sir! They also have that annoying orange tint at the end of the tip.

Also, if anyone can recommend where I can have made or wants to make a garrotte/fiberwire replica please let me know, I’m in the UK.

Thanks,
Hollow Man

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Hello, I saw earlier your post with the poison vials. Wonderful work.
You are right about mine, it is not for sale and I build it for my self and as a challenge to be the first and only one (so far) to have made it perfect.
The replica I worked on is a special airsoft pistol that became very rare. It’s called INOKATSU Colt series 70’s. Usually who bought this gun uses it as a collectible, I didn’t care at all and transformed mine into the Silverballer.

You can try to make one from other brands. What makes it special and true to the Silverballer are only the accessories at the end.
But most of those accessories don’t exist and if they do they just look a bit similar. So, you can 3D print them.
Or if you are looking for something close enough but not perfect all you need to do is to engrave it, buy Pachmayr grips, LPA rear sight, a mag clip with a thick black base pad and last see if you can find something close to the trigger.
You can also recreate the symbol inside the medallions thanks to a custom jeweler builder. Anything is possible. That’s how I made mine.


That yellow part you talk about can be sand down and create a new metal finish. You have to take it to someone professional in metal surface finishing, best if you find one in your area so you can talk about precise specifications.

About the fiber wire :thinking: Nothing complicated to do. I once put together a quick project on the old forum on how to make one and at the same time functional because I discovered that in the middle of the handles the wires has to move.
This image was given right from an IOI account here on the forum.

The black thing holding the wire can be 3D printed to look exactly the same.

You can easily find online plenty of carbon fiber wires.

For the handles I though about a double end screw with a flat surface in the middle to allow the wire moving. Something like this photo under here:

And at the end of each screw you attached 2 empty steel tubes like in this image:

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And… I just made up in a couple of minutes a blueprint for the fiber wire :sweat_smile:
What do you say?

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Thanks for all the detailed information, BUT it all just sounds like too much hard work and effort for me! Haha! I’d rather pay for them to be made

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@badeaguard could have a little artisan business going. The custom silver baller replica maker. All cash and payment upfront. Just like it would be in universe :joy:

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The fiber wire or the Silverballer? The garrote is quite easy.

Hmmmm I don’t know. I like to do these things for passion just for me and then show them online.

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What he said ^^^^^

Do it !! :smiley:

what’s the saying? - Doing something you love and you wont have to work again (or something like that)

I’m sure I wont be the only one willing to pay for custom Hitman replicas like silverballers, fibre wire, rubber ducks with flashing eyes, etc, etc (that last one ive been thinking about how to do without defalting the rubber after cutting/drilling holes in the eyes :thinking:)

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Very interesting thread! Thank you for documenting all this and sharing it with us and congrats on such a great-looking final product.

Would you mind a question from someone who has absolutely no experience with airsoft guns? Do you think a regular branded Cybergun Colt series 70 (which retails for around $130) would be sturdy enough to handle the type of custom engraving you did on this model? The Inokatsu model you used is much more expensive, but I don’t know how much of that comes from being a sought-after collectible and how much comes from using heavier or more realistic materials. They are both listed at around the same weight (which is fairly close to the weight of a real Series 70).

I live in the States so I can buy a real stainless 1911 for less than that Inokatsu model (lol) so I have quite a lower price ceiling for anything that’s a model or replica.

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Dude if you live in the states then you can just buy an actual AMT Hardballer! There are two on gunbroker right now and one is a long slide.

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Yeah I know, that falls under the umbrella of “real stainless 1911” lol. The thing is I don’t think I could ever bring myself to erase and redo the engraving on an actual Hardballer. They aren’t made anymore and apparently haven’t been made in large numbers since the 80’s so the collector in me would never permit me to permanently alter one.

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I understand, although most are in far less than perfect shape. I have one or the earlier ones from when the factory was in El Monte*. It’s certainly got some scratches on the slide and has been beat up. It was also the original all stainless steel 1911 and the stainless wasn’t so amazing back then, you can look at it wrong and blemish it :joy:

Edit* El Monte, not Covina. I knew I had that wrong.

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Yeah the only ones I’ve seen for sale are pretty well-worn. And I’ve heard that that same early stainless steel can lead to some functionality problems. I mentioned the Hardballer to my dad once and he said “Oh yeah, I’ve actually got an AMT [my heart stops for half a second] …Backup”. And apparently that thing jammed so hard he had to pry the mag out with a tool every once in a while.

It’s ironic since the Hardballer was essentially a copy of the Colt Gold Cup but in stainless. And now the current Colt Gold Cup model is offered in stainless, as are repros of the 70’s era Mk IVs. So you could probably put together a pretty damn good imitation Hardballer by mixing and matching some things in the Colt Custom catalog (and probably emptying your entire checking account in the process).

I recently learned that a company purchased AMT’s IP and a few years ago reintroduced one of their Automags… then promptly went out of business. :frowning: If somebody bought it again and started making new Hardballers and Hardballer Longslides I know they would have a customer in me.

AMT has been out of business more times than anyone cares to count haha, but we have hijacked this thread for long enough. I’ll PM you.

Sorry, Alex, but post some new photos soon of whatever you’re up to with the replicas!!!

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Thank you very much!
My Mark 2 is done exactly on that model, Cybergun.

It’s a nice airsoft gun but the metal is not really pure. They told me at the engraving villa that the metal used is a mix of more materials that combine gives some kind of metal. But it’s not stainless steel.
If you can find an expert in metal finishes you could do the same job I did, sand down the sides of the slide until the markings are removed and then remake the original finish. You can sand down the whole slide but for me personally it really looks good in 2 tones.
The same thing you can do with the frame. I stopped with mine because then I discovered the INOKATSU series and it would had been a waste of money to continue on the Cybergun.
About the engravings it’s better if you are very picky who will make it for you. It is not the hardest part but a professional job really catches the eye.

For the rear sight I used an LPA sight that I bought on ebay. The one from the Silverballer was heavily inspired by it so I decided to go with the real one.

Or as @Yacob said, you can go with the real one and the only thing left to do is the job I talked above on the engravings touching only the sides.
It all comes down to how much identical you want it to be at the end. Some are happy with just the engravings and the grips. I instead want the smallest part to be 100% accurate or else I can’t live :joy:

No worries. Talk about anything you want related to the Silverballer replicas world :hugs:

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Actually I have been meaning to ask you, are those grips actual American legend grips from pachmayr and then you just swapped the medallion? Or did you custom order the grips too?

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They are the original Pachmayr Grips. I just cut down on the rubber to make it looks identical to the Silverballer’s and swapped the medallions with my own creation.

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Ahhhh, I see. I had misunderstood, the fact that the Inokatsu is a series under the Cybergun brand made me not realize that those were two separate projects you did. So now I know exactly how that would look modded as a silverballer, even better! Thanks for the extra pics too. I totally feel you on getting every detail right, I’m the same way.

I recently subjected myself to the two Hitman movie adaptations, and I was stunned when I paused on a close-up of Timothy Olyphant’s faux-ballers and saw a big PARA-ORDNANCE emblem splashed across the slide. Something like that came from the prophouse of a mutli-million dollar movie and you’ve completely outdone them on your own as a hobbyist. If they ever make a third try at a movie adaptation I think we should all demand they hire you as a consultant. :grin:

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Well… My Silverballer has started to collect rust.

I left it in a drawer for so long out of the box that I had no idea this could happen. Today I started to play Blood Money and while doing so I sometimes love the sensation of having it right next to me. During the cutscenes or the briefing I pick it up to admire it and I notice that only on one side there is rust.
This broke my hear a little because since the pandemic I had and still have to be very careful with my money.
I did had the occasion to print some new parts and at one point I had a job but that job didn’t pay enough to continue my passion so now here I am looking at it how it’s about to go bad.
It’s not a big deal and it can be easily removed. I’m to blame that I didn’t leave it inside the box the gun came with.

I was thinking right now about kickstarter. I’m not really sure how it works if the people can donate for your project or they donate now to have an advantage later if the project takes off. I have to look into this.
I hope one day I can come here with good news or even better the whole thing finish.
I’m working on this exact replica since 2017.

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That’s tragic news!!! I take it the replica is not actually stainless steel then? Some other shiny steel or non steel metal? Moisture will eventually win against metal (even 416 or 304 stainless steel).

Do you oil it? You will prolong the life of the metal by years if you put a thin layer on every couple of months or after you use it.

Get some actual CLP or actual gun oil or even just something like wd40 anti corrosion spray will work and isn’t expensive at all.

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The people who engraved it told me it actually is and by all replicas that I had so far this one is indeed the heaviest and real stainless.
The rust accumulated only on the sides where the metal was worked on so that might be a hint.
At the engraving villa they suggested me to add a layer of something on the sides to prevent scratches and I assume also rust.
I opted this option out because I want to give the gun the full metal look and I was afraid that with this product on the side it will look too plastificated.

No I don’t and I have no idea how. Something tells me 47 was doing this in the last cutscene in Blood Money when Diana enters the room.

And now I think I will start to do this. Not really now but when the project is complete.

I looked into kickstarted and I will open up a post there. I hope there is absolutely no trouble in doing so because I’m using a trademark “Silverballer”.
After all the project is just something personal with no intention to gain from it apart my pride of making it perfect for myself.
Anyone knows something if it’s illegal somehow?

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This video is way more detailed than is necessary, but it’s all good information. Basically just making sure a very small amount of oil covers the weapon and a small amount is in between any moving parts is what you want.

Now your replica will smell real too.

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