Hitman Target Championship - Heat C47

Classic Hitman Games Codename 47
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Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [15]
Blue Lotus Members [5] -2
Red Dragon Negotiator [21]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [22]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [14] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [17]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [23]
No. 48 clones [12]

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63

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [15]
Blue Lotus Members [5]
Red Dragon Negotiator [21]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [22]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [15] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]-2
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [23]
No. 48 clones [12]

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64

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]-2
Blue Lotus Members [5]
Red Dragon Negotiator [21]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [22]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [16] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [23]
No. 48 clones [12]

Love you guys :heart:

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65

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Blue Lotus Members [3] -2
Red Dragon Negotiator [21]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [22]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [17] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [23]
No. 48 clones [12]

Storywise, all of the Five Fathers deserve to pass.

In terms of gameplay? Most of the targets are atrocious.

Ochoa stays in one room and the only dev intended way to kill him is to first clear out the entire house and only then confront him with that stupid shootout scene. The other methods are of course sniping him from the start (Iā€™ve always been a sucker for sniping so he gets bonus points for that) and knifing him when he jumps across the table but not before he fires off a few rounds of his M60 and alerts everyone.

Franz never leaves the shower but at least you can enter his room in a few different ways.

Arkadij is stationary in that pointless room and only moves when you enter it or heā€™s alerted. By that point the only thing left to do with him is to ambush him in a corner somewhere or let him die by the car bomb you spent five decades trying to reach.

Ort-Meyer literally dies if you spit on him and he gets a total of 3 seconds of screen time in his mission not counting cutscenes. At least his speech is fun to listen to from time to time.

Only Lee Hong serves as a passable target with different ways to reach him and one or two sniping opportunities.

7 Likes
66

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Blue Lotus Members [2] -1
Red Dragon Negotiator [21]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [22]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [17]
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [24] +1
No. 48 clones [11] -1

1 Like
67

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Blue Lotus Members [0] -2
Red Dragon Negotiator [21]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23] +1
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [17]
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [24]
No. 48 clones [11]

4 Likes
68

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Red Dragon Negotiator [19] -2
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [18] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [24]
No. 48 clones [11]

There is room for maximum one Red Dragon Negotiator in this town, and I prefer the one with unique looks, the one with the guts to surround himself with only enemies, and the one who is essentially 47ā€™s first.

5 Likes
69

not weird at all.

the only narrative element of hitman i value is that of the targets and in-level stories. getting to explore and interact with a living diorama is a great system for delivering narratives that sort of reminds me of promenade theatre a bit. i adore it. i do, however, think this competition will be a little one-sided.

the five fathers are - more or less - caricatures/archetypes lifted straight from films and literature - the mad scientist, fu manchu, tony montana, etc. - without going much further. thatā€™s not a criticism as such, that was the appeal: we got to play out those kinds of hitman movie fantasies in a way we never had before.

however, if weā€™re talking about characters with good motivations, back story, characters, etc. i think the woa trilogy is far more robust and accomplished on that front. pre-woa thereā€™s hardly anything comparable to, say, jared letā€”-jordan crossā€™ psychodrama, the mythological war between the major playerā€™s in mumbai, the layers of betrayal in last resort, etc.

the later games demonstrably allow for more intricate interactions, whether itā€™s events between npcs or between the player and npcs, and this subsequently makes the woa targets - on the whole - feel more layered and fleshed out compared to earlier games. itā€™s simply down to the tech being better and io having learned better ways to leverage it. plus, they have more accomplished writers and more ways to show that writing off.

iā€™m not trying to be mean here or anything :smile:

5 Likes
70

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Red Dragon Negotiator [17] - 2
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [18]
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [25] +1
No. 48 clones [11]

3 Likes
71

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Red Dragon Negotiator [15] - 2
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [19] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [25]
No. 48 clones [11]

4 Likes
72

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [13]
Red Dragon Negotiator [15]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [17] -2
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26] +1
No. 48 clones [11]

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Just noticed I forgot to actually add a point to Ochoa, it should now be 17 @Accidental_Kills98 !

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74

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [11] -2
Red Dragon Negotiator [15]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [18] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26]
No. 48 clones [11]

4 Likes
75

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [11]
Red Dragon Negotiator [15]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [19] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [15]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26]
No. 48 clones [9] -2

3 Likes
76

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [11]
Red Dragon Negotiator [15]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [22]
Pablo Ochoa [20] +1
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [13] -2
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26]
No. 48 clones [9]

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77

I know, itĀ“s atrocious. I donĀ“t have the editing skills, or talent, or time, so if anyone could and would want to do a better version, please do :laughing:

savingpablo

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78

I swear I will singlehanded fight to the grave in order to eliminate Ochoa. Once we start voting for the gameā€™s real targets it is either him or the Russkie that is going to go.

79

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [9] -2
Red Dragon Negotiator [15]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [23] +1
Pablo Ochoa [20]
Franz Fuchs [22]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [13]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26]
No. 48 clones [9]

2 Likes
80

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [9]
Red Dragon Negotiator [13] -2
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [23]
Pablo Ochoa [20]
Franz Fuchs [23] +1 feels kind of dirty doing this
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [13]
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26]
No. 48 clones [9]

7 Likes
81

Red Dragon Negotiator [20]
Blue Lotus Emissary [9]
Red Dragon Negotiator [13]
Hong Kong Chief of Police [23]
Lee Hong [24] +1
Pablo Ochoa [20]
Franz Fuchs [23]
Arkadij Jegorov [21]
Dr. Odon Kovacs [11] -2
Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer [26]
No. 48 clones [9]

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