No matter what it shouldn’t be on the player for “taking a risk.” If they’re capable of transferring progress from HITMAN 2 to HITMAN 3, it’s perfectly reasonable to think you could transfer progress from HITMAN 3 to HITMAN 3.
So how about nobody’s to blame here? IOI didn’t communicate, but that doesn’t make it the player’s fault for assuming anything. If you’re offering a product, it’s your responsibility to make it absolutely clear what that entails.
So I’m not mad they don’t support it, but I think it’s silly to blame people for coming to conclusions when IO decided to say nothing about it until now.
Games with multiplayer functionality must support crossplay across all PC storefronts. This is because customers expect to be able to connect with their friends on the same platform, and breaking this expectation leads to a poor customer experience. You are free to use any solution for crossplay — your own, the free Epic Online Services, or any third-party system that is not locked to a particular store.
H3 does not have multiplayer functionality. So no, this does not apply to H3.
And if it were against the term, H1 wouldn’t have made it to Epic, at least in the current form.
I’d argue that it’s not entirely the player’s fault for assuming they’d share progress or be able to easily transfer it from Epic to Steam.
They share the same ecosystem, just different storefronts.
Other platforms like Xbox and Playstation share progress between their versions (XBO=XSX / PS4=PS5)
And other platforms that use the PC framework (evidenced by the Contracts Mode code 1) like Switch and Stadia would understandably NOT share progress with PC, since those are totally different platforms, essentially. Nintendo’s own Switch and Google’s own Cloud Service/Chromecast thing)
Plus, Epic Games had not yet had Hitman 1 or 2 (IIRC) at the time of Hitman 3’s launch, so there would have been no single-ecosystem progress transfer to do. It had to come from Steam.
But, they did specifically mention this at launch, so
– Progression carryover is a one-time process, meaning once you have performed a carryover for a particular platform, you will not be able to do so again at a later time.
It’s understandable that transferring over data again might not have been feasible (even if it’s now H3->H3)
Yet generous that you will in-fact be able to transfer your Hitman 2 progress again, when the wording sounded like it would lock you and your progress to EGS.
Maybe they can’t simply allow you to do that because it’s the “same” game and could lead to any issue? I mean I don’t know but I can’t even say “bad IOI”.
I’m not defending them but if they were “Finicky” as you said, they probably wouldn’t even give you the ability to do a second transfer progress.
Sure would be great do the transfer from H3 Epic but I said before, i think that most of us has only to redo Hitman 3 challenges and unlocks.
Lastly, we don’t work inside IOI so we can claim whatever we want and we will never know the real reason why they to don’t allow to do stuff like this.
Buying a game on anything other than Steam should not be labelled as a risk, because “You didn’t get it on steam”, this is just nonsense. I didn’t “take a risk”, I bought it because I wanted to support IOI and play their game on EGS. Players expect cross-saves on a game with online servers, especially on the same platform. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable expectation to have by players. As mentioned below by Vittorio;
it’s perfectly reasonable to think you could transfer progress from HITMAN 3 to HITMAN 3.
…which I agree with fully. I was being hopeful that they’d let H3 players on EGS do save transfers because, to be frank, I can’t think of a good reason why they wouldn’t. Their wording, prior to this rewrite, only specifically mentioned Steam to EGS to be possible, and never outright implied the opposite was impossible until recently. So players had no basis but hope that saves would be transferred.
So I’m not mad they don’t support it, but I think it’s silly to blame people for coming to conclusions when IO decided to say nothing about it until now.
Again, nail on the head here. You can’t blame players for coming to a reasonable outcome when IOI’s silence on the matter for the whole year didn’t suggest anything would stop them.
You should know that hope is never healthy about content management in games because of many reasons (money, technical difficulties or political decisions for example). Expecting nothing is often the least worst way to go.
And now, I am pleasantly surprised because H2 Steam → H3 Steam is possible when you transferred your data to Epic, because they said at the time (january 2021), that the transfer of a Hitman 2’s account was not possible a second time.
Expecting nothing is just cynical as all hell; if I expect nothing, I won’t be disappointed, anything else that’s good will surprise me. I don’t live like that. I’m on the realist side on the scale of things, but i’m not someone who just lays back and just expects nothing out of my game. Call me old fashioned, but I like being excited for things. I have cautious optimism when i’m excited for stuff, i’m almost never “neutral and expecting nothing”.
I think they were more referring to repeatedly doing H2 to H3 transfers from Steam to EGS. The context’s a bit different, hence why they’ve had to clarify.
Because you don’t know how the transfer works. Only IO does. Don’t just go assuming that it works because you don’t know.
There’s your answer. They never said EGS to Steam would be possible. They never promised that. You, reusing your words, hoped that it would be “on no basis”. And now you’re mad at IO because it isn’t.
Seriously, don’t assume things because it seems “perfectly reasonable” to you, and then get disappointed when it isn’t.
It is equally viable to assume that it does work and they’re holding out for no good reason. I find it very suspect that transferring data from steam to Epic works, but somehow the reverse is not possible. That’s not something I can believe to be honest.
Their wording was non-specific. I wasn’t trying to claim they promised anything at all. I’m miffed that they didn’t tell anyone sooner.
For the record, I have no real interest in rebuying the steam version unless they transfer everything, DLC’s and all, from EGS to steam, I just find their reasoning to be flimsy for reasons i’ve already given.
Actually I think that there should be away to transfer your progress from Epic to Steam. It doesn’t make sense not to be able to do so. Especially since you would have your progress data linked to your IOI account. Maybe I’m missing something here ?.
I know what you mean. Though, with the benefit of hindsight, the previous line that you could only transfer progress once seems like it was designed primarily to downplay the possibility of a future Steam release.
I’m not sure I would describe this as generous. It would be pretty outrageous if people couldn’t transfer their H2 Steam progress to H3 Steam. Valve probably wouldn’t have been best pleased by that state of affairs!
To be clear, I’m not saying Valve had any involvement thus far. I’m talking about an alternative situation, if the policy had not been updated, in which users cannot transfer their H2 progress to H3 in Steam.