H3 is updating. Any news as to what/why?
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This may come late but since I watched all Hitman 1 and 2 cutscenes yesterday this came to my mind. Haven’t thought about it yet, but I’m a bit confused 
When Grey got to Novikov for this book with informations about the global elite, he already had the key for this vault in New York from Cobb. And a few weeks later he got the other key and broke into that vault to get all the information about every providence operative.
So why did he needed that book from Novikov? Did it said something else than the informations he got in that New York vault? I mean, Novikov and Margolis just collected these informations, but the informations in that vault are kinda official. So why did he needed this book in the first place?
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So the audience knows he’s shady and somewhat of a badass
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I think the vault he robbed in New York wasn’t so much information on Providence operatives as it was financial records that he then used to track down Providence operatives, after all Milton-Fitzpatrick was a bank. Plus the IAGO Dossier had something Grey lacked and that was hard evidence he needed to show the middlemen that put out the contracts.
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But the constant said to that Mr Fanin that there was no money but information “about all our operatives”? So I thought it’s only about the who is who of providence 
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Ah so that vault is in the New York bank, too? I thought it’s a different place 
Damn playing this game for so many years now and still discovering new things the deeper I dig
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I mean it still fits, fiscal records aren’t money and it would reveal a lot about who works for Providence given they are just a giant shell company and that would include the personal details needed when you fill out a bank application.
I mean that is an educated guess, I assumed that since Fanin was CFO of the bank that it was most likely to be New York since that is where the bank is headquartered.
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I see, thank you @Hichkas and @Accidental_Kills98 
I still don’t really understand why he needed the IAGO informations, I don’t even really get why Novikov and Margolis had to die 
I mean, I know they may not be the most friendliest people, but they weren’t part of Providence if I got this right. But well, I guess somewhere the story had to start 
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Like I said it is hard evidence. Grey can’t walk up to the Ether shareholders and say “Your company is making a highly refined bioweapon in a lab on the Amalfi Coast. My source is just trust me, Bro.”
He was tying up loose ends and covering his tracks after buying all of the evidence he needs to launch his revenge plan.
That or he had everything in the files and stealing from the vault was just a message to Providence that nobody is untouchable and that they had a very strong enemy working against them now.
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I think it’s for multiple reasons. IAGO’s honeypot strategy toward spying meant that the models working under Margolis were sleeping with some powerful people who were letting little secrets slip while in bed or while drunk. I think Grey did it for a few reasons:
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Names. He was trying to find anyone listed in the file who was up to something that might be beneficial to Providence, meaning they were likely an operative. From this, we can gather that somebody let slip the info about the virus Caruso was making for Ether, the coup attempt Zaydan was preparing for, or both.
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Disruption. Grey would have wanted to hinder any Providence plan he possibly could just on principle. Something as significant as the Ether virus or the attempt to take over Morocco would have gone a long way to increasing the secret influence of the Partners, and so he would have wanted to frustrate them whenever possible. But, that was secondary, because his primary reason for stopping Caruso was…
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Bait. He knew from Cobb where the vault for the Providence personnel info was kept, but not who all were key-bearers. So, by alerting the Ether shareholder as to what was going on, and having them send 47 after Caruso and DeSantis as a result, Grey knew that Providence would send someone to investigate what happened, and so he watched and waited. That’s why he told the agent in Johannesburg that he’d followed him from Italy. Either he needed to know who another key-bearer was, or he’d figured it out from IAGO’s dossier and just needed to lure one out, so he was watching for the man responsible for the Italian territory, so he could get his key. That allowed his next plan, which was…
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Distraction. Since he likely knew already about Zaydan’s coup attempt (Zaydan was noted as regularly dating celebrity women, like models who work for IAGO for instance), he timed his raid on the vault to coincide with the day they were preparing to break Strandberg out of custody, and to make sure that all Providence eyes were on that event, he arranged 47 to stop their plans right as they were happening, giving him cover to break into the vault while everyone else was trying to figure out what happened.
The Constant started to put the pieces together after that, realizing that two major project failures, the disappearance of a key-bearing operative, and Cobb’s supposed “accident,” was too much of a coincidence to ignore, and decided to check the vault in case. The rest is history.
But yeah, in short, Grey primarily needed IAGO to know who to target, who likely had a key, and what bait and distractions he could use to get at the main archive while keeping Providence’s attention elsewhere.
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Thank you so much for this long analysis @Heisenberg
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No problem. One thing I forgot could explain specifically why Novikov and Margolis had to die, was so Providence, and probably Interpol and any other intelligence agencies, would not be able to question Dahlia and Viktor about who they gave the information to. While they probably didn’t know a name, Viktor could identify Grey by providing a physical description, and Dahlia knew enough about what kind of man Viktor made a deal with to at least point them in the right direction; I doubt she met Grey directly, but Viktor likely told her about him. Also, it’s possible they might have chosen to tell whoever questioned them about what was in the dossier, in exchange for leniency over their complicity in learning so many of Providence’s secrets. That would mean that, if they spilled about everything in the dossier, Providence would be able to guess where Grey might hit them and what he was after. He couldn’t have that. So Viktor and Dahlia were “loose ends” as witnesses against him in both the legal system and for Providence’s investigators.
In addition, it may have been just to get 47 on the path. Grey was playing the long game, complete social engineering. He didn’t want the ICA to figure out they were being played or who they were targeting, but he wanted 47 to slowly start to realize that someone who knew him was pulling the strings and to realize the targets where connected, helping him remember the oath they both swore. The best way to get him to do that while seeming innocuous to both the ICA and Providence, was to get 47 to take out Viktor and Dahlia, two people not part of Providence, to make it seem unconnected, just another, regular contract.
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You wrote nearly 180 words to say something I did in around 30.
Your teachers must have really hated you.
Also I doubt it was to get 47 on the path that would be a very complex and stupid way to get 47 on Grey’s side. I always though Grey wanted to keep 47 out of direct fire and simply use him until it became truly personal but the ICA attack and the deaths of his top operatives (barring Olivia) in Colorado made Grey change his plans.
That or IO had no fucking clue which way the story was going to go even when they started writing it.
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One little thing that was bugging me just the other day is when that Herald said to Grey; “Don’t thank me, I just killed you.”
At the end of Mendoza, Diana activated a poison to incapacitate 47. Could the Herald have poisoned Grey when he handed him the key?
Haven Island ending cutscene… Grey’s actions seemed a bit ambiguous/“sus”.
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Thinking of Grey and experiments… If he was a clone, what genetic enhancements, if any, did he have?
Then again, I could be way off here.
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He means that killing him will attract Providence attention or that Grey opening the vault will draw the attention.
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I like to be thorough when making a point whenever possible.
It’s a possibility and it matches with Grey’s style. 47 might be the best at setting up a kill, but Grey was the best a socially engineering the situation to allow that kill, and it shows with his plan; he wasn’t playing chess, he was getting others to play chess for him. It’s possible he meant the Showstopper contract as the beginning point to bring 47 on board.
He succeeded, too. Ultimately, his admitting he had the key and turning it over to Grey initiated a series of events which eventually led to Grey’s death.
On the same token, because 47’s actions are what directly led to Grey killing himself instead of helping to take out those troops, 47 is directly responsible for Grey’s death, meaning that he really did fulfill his final contract for the ICA and kill the Shadow Client after destroying his militia. Olivia doesn’t count because she was never specifically labeled as a targeted militia member for 47.
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When was stupidly and needlessly complex his style? Even if his specialisation was social engineering would that mean fuck around with a criminal syndicate that specialises in assassinations? All Grey could do was simply appear at one of 47’s safehouses while he is on assignment and it would be enough to at least make 47 realise the Client is a clone attacking Providence then build on from there.
Did we watch the same cutscene? Grey sacrificed himself so he wouldn’t blow 47’s cover because there is no way 47 can kill a group of people with automatic weapons without cover or getting the drop on them. 47 is good but he isn’t like an X-man. 47 couldn’t help him and even Grey knew he couldn’t.
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That’s… precisely what he did for the entire first game. That’s literally what he was doing.
Yes, we did. Remember Victoria taking out all those guards on her own, and she didn’t even start with a weapon or disguised as one of their own while in their midst? Well, I imagine 47 is capable of a similar feat.
Now, think about it: when Grey grabbed that pistol, 47 could have put a round in two guys’ heads before anyone knew what happened, ducked and dropped one, maybe two more, and then take off running and tuck-n-rolling through the brush. And while the surprised soldiers who were left all turned their weapons on him, Grey then starts shooting, and he drops at least two before someone decides to turn back around and aim at him, and they’re getting a bullet in the eye. The second person aiming at him maybe takes Grey out, maybe not, and now you’re down several guys who are just barely now getting what happened, and 47 is still sneaking around. They could have done it. It would have been tough and Grey would probably have still died, but it was possible.
Anyway, that’s not what my main point was. By indicating that he was getting ready to do just that, and Grey deciding not to risk it and sacrificing himself, 47 essentially pushed him into killing himself, meaning 47 unintentionally still fulfilled his last contract for ICA, ending on a perfect record (Diana surviving in Absolution doesn’t count because she was secretly the real client).
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Yeah but it wasn’t some masterplan to reconnect with his brother or to try and induct him into the militia. He was simply using 47 to do his dirty work, something his conventional agents couldn’t do.
Ignoring that a 35 year old man is in no way comparable to a teenage girl in terms of athleticism even after gene modification. She got the jump of the Dexter guards because nobody anticipated her to be that capable not to mention there were less of them, that was the point of the scene. You see that was my point that there were too many.
If the same number of agents from Absolution was there then yes 47 would have won but they weren’t. Because that scene required Grey to make a sacrifice so that when 47 takes up his cause we see him display a capacity for vengeance, independence and self-determination.
What is it with you and stupidly complicated plans? Your plan still ends with Grey dead on this time he accidentals himself to death in the scuffle. You might as well say the plat is that 47 takes out his pistol pistol whips a guy trained on Grey and then runs zig-zags as he runs super fucking fast away from Grey taking the Militia with them as Grey sneaks out covered in leaves stuck to him with mud.
You don’t seem to grasp that a poignant sacrifice is the whole point of the scene and what the scene needed for it to happen to have the plot impact it does.
You point is still invalid because Grey died because he was put in a situation where an ICA squad had tracked him down and ambushed him. It wasn’t 47 that antagonised and manipulated the ICA into breaking their neutrality and into siding with Grey’s enemy that was all Grey. That is why it happens the way it does, it is karmic! He dies from the very side he manipulated into doing his dirty work on orders from the group he despises the most with the brother he wanted to avenge looking helplessly on.
The hit against Diana was authorised by Travis because Diana had been discovered Victoria and had abducted her, Travis wanted 47 to kill Diana and retrieve Victoria but 47 was working against Travis the whole time. Diana herself paid 47 for going against Travis in the first place but I feel like that isn’t an on the books hit.
Either way 47 can’t have a perfect record if he defects and joins forces with his last target. If you go AWOL they don’t simply forgive you, they court martial you then discharge you dishonourably.
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